This story was updated on August 16, 2019 to reflect further improvements to the NFL wins pool draft order. The updated version is even more balanced. To skip down to the new 10-person draft order, click here. To skip down to similarly balanced draft orders for pools with nine, eight, seven, or six players, click here.
How to improve the "Bill Simmons draft order"
I was in my hometown a couple of weeks ago for an afternoon family event, so I floated a text to a couple of my buddies who live nearby to see what they were up to that night. As it turned out, a bunch of them were meeting at a bar a few hours later for their "fantasy football draft" — or at least what remained of it. After years on life support, their 14-year old fantasy league of 10 childhood friends — all dudes from the HS class of 2001, a year above me — had finally succumbed to the fact that we're in our mid-30s, most of the guys have little kids, and only Johan and Dan actually give a shit. (And Josh, but he'd never admit it.) So then what the hell were they doing there? And why show up at your friends' fantasy draft when they at least need to half-focus and having a couple of drinks / making fun of their picks / playing the role of court jester probably gets old by the draft's third round? My buddy McArdle's text revealed the answer: "We're doing a wins pool so the draft will be five minutes long. So you should come by if you're around." Ah. A wins pool. That sounds nice. The rules? Ten participants each pick three different NFL teams — using a unique draft order, which is the focus of this article — and whoever has the three with the most combined wins at the end of the regular season wins the pool. (The same team can't be picked twice.) Most importantly, wins pools require little or no preparation and zero time or attention during the season.[1] My own hometown fantasy league flirted with folding for five-ish years in a row too, each time inching closer to death, twice requiring that we grab a semi-random when one of the originals dropped out. We also ended up looking to a wins pool as a low-key way to keep some semblance of camaraderie alive.
The draft is easy — but the draft order is not entirely straightforward
If you sat down with nine friends to start a standard 10-person NFL wins pool, it wouldn't take long to realize that a traditional snake draft doesn't work — at least not fairly. Ten people making three picks across 30 NFL teams means three draft rounds, which is an odd number. Player 1 with the 1st overall pick would draft 1st, 20th, and 21st, while Player 10 with the 10th overall pick would draft 10th, 11th, and 30th. The sum of Player 1's draft positions is 41, and her average pick is 13.7. Meanwhile, Player 10's sum is 51, and his average is 16.7. There'd be a big advantage to picking early and big disadvantage to picking late.
The Bill Simmons draft order is fine — but we can do better
To remedy the snake draft issue — and extol the virtues of the wins pool upon America, which he's done successfully — Bill Simmons shared a wins pool drafting system on Grantland in 2012. Simmons did not create the draft order, but it has more or less become known as the "Bill Simmons draft order." Here it is: THE BILL SIMMONS METHOD Player 1 — 1, 20, 26 Player 2 — 2, 16, 29 Player 3 — 3, 13, 30 Player 4 — 4, 18, 25 Player 5 — 5, 15, 27 Player 6 — 6, 19, 22 Player 7 — 7, 11, 28 Player 8 — 8, 17, 21 Player 9 — 9, 14, 23 Player 10 — 10, 12, 24 Simmons concedes that he has "no idea how the creator came up with these numbers." But the order seems balanced enough — and in the end, NFL wins are random enough — that there isn't much reason to wonder. If you're curious, the Simmons wins pool draft order attempts to make the sum (or average) of each player's draft position as equal as possible. Every sum is 46 or 47, and every average is 15.3 or 15.7.
Last year was an improvement — but we can do even better than that
The "Simmons method" is better than the snake draft. But as originally detailed here in 2018, we were able to create a "fairer" wins-pool draft by basing the draft order on the sums and averages of historical win patterns, rather than the sums and averages of draft positions. It turns out that we can do even better. Down in the comments section, readers "Brian Golden" and "Harrison" suggested looking at how many games NFL teams typically win based on their preseason Vegas win-total lines. The idea is that when we all sit down for our NFL wins pool drafts, those win-total over/unders are the best market indication of how each team will perform, and that a logical wins pool draft order should therefore generally follow suit. Put another way, if wins pool drafts occur in descending order of preseason win-total lines — meaning the team with the highest win total gets picked 1st, the team with the 2nd-highest total gets picked 2nd, and so forth — then we could look back at how many games the team with the highest, 2nd-highest, 3rd-highest win totals (etc.) usually wins. A fair wins pool draft order should balance those projected wins. I was a little hesitant at first, in large part because I wasn't convinced that people actually drafted their wins-pool teams with win-total lines in mind. After all, there's only a modest correlation between preseason win-total over/unders and actual wins (0.46 since 2002). They tell us much more about how good a team was in the previous season (0.75) than do about how good they'll be in the upcoming season. But the comments stuck with me, so I decided to dive back in. I don't have look-through to hundreds or thousands of wins-pool draft results — if anyone does, let me know — but among the samples I analyzed, there was a 90% correlation between preseason win-total lines and wins-pool draft results. Consciously or not, people draft as preseason win totals suggest they should. Brian and Harrison's suggestion holds up.
How to improve your NFL wins pool draft order — balancing projected wins
Based on trends since 2002 — the start of the 32-team era in the NFL — the team with the highest preseason win-total over/under wins 12.3 regular-season games. The team with the 2nd-highest preseason win-total line wins 11.0 games, the #3 preseason team wins 10.2 games, and down from there. Overall, the top 30 NFL teams in terms of preseason win-total lines — the 30 that would be selected in a logical 10-person wins pool draft — go on to win 245.4 games. So to create a fair draft, we should structure the draft order so that each participant expects to win an average of 24.5 games across their three teams. Under the Simmons method, the person with the first overall pick (#1, #21, #26) has a major advantage. They project to garner 12.3 wins (#1), 6.9 wins (#21), and 6.6 wins (#26) — good for an expected total of 25.9 wins, or 1.4 wins above the equitable baseline. The person with the second overall pick (#2, #16, #19) also has a sizable advantage. In fact, every single player except Player #9 is at an advantage or a disadvantage. Anything can happen, of course, and these discrepancies aren't going to make or break your draft. But by reshuffling the deck based on the methodology described above, we can create an NFL wins pool draft order in which every player projects to win almost exactly 24.5 games. Here's how the revised order looks:
Due rounding, some numbers will not appear to sum
Under the new arrangement, all advantages and disadvantages are eliminated, and every participant's baseline is within 0.1 wins of the 24.5-win average. The standard deviation between the 10 wins-pool participants falls from 0.758 wins to 0.096 wins — a major decrease that greatly evens the playing field.
Here's a stand-alone summary with downward changes in red and upward changes in blue: THE ELDORADO METHOD Player 1 — 1, 28, 30 Player 2 — 2, 21, 24 Player 3 — 3, 18, 22 Player 4 — 4, 17, 20 Player 5 — 5, 15, 23 Player 6 — 6, 14, 26 Player 7 — 7, 11, 29 Player 8 — 8, 16, 19 Player 9 — 9, 13, 25 Player 10 — 10, 12, 27 I made it a point to still start the draft with a normal #1 through #10 order, making all of the changes elsewhere in the draft. There are other ways to arrive at a similar point — or perhaps to even flatten down the remaining 0.1-win discrepancies — but this order has produced the lowest standard deviation so far.[2]
The win-totals curve — and why Player 1's last two picks aren't as bad as they look
Although I feel confident that this method produces the fairest draft order yet, I worry that it might harbor some obstacles to adoption — specifically when it comes to the optics of Player 1's picks. After all, it looks pretty shitty to have the 1st pick but then not pick again until the end of the draft, in spots #28 and #30. But based on trends, the NFL team with the highest preseason win-total line projects to win 12.3 games, the team with the 28th-highest over/under projects to win 6.5 games, and the team with the 30th-highest over/under projects to win 5.9 games — good for a total of 24.6 wins between the three selected teams, which is essentially the spot-on projected average across all players. (It's actually a shade advantageous). Having the 28th and 30th picks isn't all that bad because preseason win-total lines aren't super accurate and the wins curve is really flat in certain areas. The 28th pick might sound bad on paper, but as you can see in the chart below, the actual wins it yields aren't much different from picking elsewhere in the 20s.[3] That's not the case at the very front end of the curve. There's a large premium to having the first overall pick — if you take the team with the highest win-total line, results are more consistent and you're reliably looking at double-digit wins. The best way to offset that is to also give Player #1 the 28th and 30th picks. In the following chart, you can see how many regular-season games NFL teams win (y-axis, out of 16 games) based on their preseason win-total over/under ranking (x-axis, out of 32 teams) before the season.
So when you've hit the point in your fantasy football league when a couple of people are auto-drafting, a couple more are forgetting to set their rosters, only two or three are working the waiver wire, and two or three more think that the guys who were good five years ago are still good (usually me), it could be time to hang your glory on the wall and switch to an NFL wins pool. Or just do one anyway because they're fun.
Don't have 10 players? — don't snake draft — these draft orders balance projected wins
NINE PLAYERS Player 1 — 1, 26, 27 Player 2 — 2, 18, 25 Player 3 — 3, 16, 21 Player 4 — 4, 14, 20 Player 5 — 5, 12, 23 Player 6 — 6, 11, 22 Player 7 — 7, 10, 24 Player 8 — 8, 15, 17 Player 9 — 9, 13, 19 Every player is within 0.1 projected wins of the average (25.2) except Player 1, who projects to win 25.4 games. But with the first overall pick and last two overall picks (#26, #27), this is the closest we can get Player #1 to the projected average. A traditional snake draft would only go back and forth 1.5 times, which is inherently unfair and does not account for the nuances of the wins curve. The revised draft order reduces the standard deviation from 0.8 to 0.1 projected wins. EIGHT PLAYERS Player 1 — 1, 17, 19, 32 Player 2 — 2, 16, 18, 31 Player 3 — 3, 13, 23, 29 Player 4 — 4, 12, 21, 28 Player 5 — 5, 10, 24, 25 Player 6 — 6, 9, 22, 26 Player 7 — 7, 11, 20, 27 Player 8 — 8, 14, 15, 30 Every player is within 0.06 projected wins of the average (31.9). A traditional eight-person snake draft would go back and forth two full times — which may be tempting — but because of the uneven win-projections curve, it would create a major advantage for Player #1 (0.8 projected wins above average), some advantage for Player #2 (0.2), and disadvantages for all others. The revised draft order reduces the standard deviation of projected wins from 0.33 to 0.04. SEVEN PLAYERS Player 1 — 1, 19. 20, 22 Player 2 — 2, 13, 21, 24 Player 3 — 3, 11, 18, 27 Player 4 — 4, 9, 17, 25 Player 5 — 5, 10, 15, 28 Player 6 — 6, 8, 16, 23 Player 7 — 7, 12, 14, 26 Every player is within 0.04 projected wins of the average (33.3). A traditional seven-person snake draft would also go back and forth twice, but because of the uneven win-projections curve — and the fact that spots #28-32 aren't there to offset the front end of the curve — it would create an enormous advantage for Player #1 (2.2 projected wins above average), a large advantage for Player #2 (1.0), and major disadvantages for all others. (If you snake draft with seven players, Player #1 starts with a 3.3 projected-win advantage over Player #7.) The revised draft order reduces the standard deviation of projected wins from 1.23 to 0.03. SIX PLAYERS Player 1 — 1, 12, 20, 23, 30 Player 2 — 2, 14, 16, 22, 26 Player 3 — 3, 11, 17, 19, 25 Player 4 — 4, 9, 13, 24, 27 Player 5 — 5, 7, 15, 18, 28 Player 6 — 6, 8, 10, 21, 29 Every player is within 0.02 projected wins of the average (40.9). A traditional six-person snake draft would only go back and forth 2.5 times here, which is inherently unfair and doesn't account for the nuances of the wins curve. The revised draft order reduces the standard deviation from 1.49 to 0.01 projected wins. In all of the scenarios above, I made it a point to give each player a first-round pick. In certain instances, you can reduce the remaining (negligible) imbalances even further if you don't hold yourself to that. I'm sure there are other ways to arrive at similar results. If you want me to run this for five, four, or three players, please comment down below!
Footnotes
[1] The only instance I can think of in which an NFL wins pool might require some of your attention during the season would be if you were close to winning toward the end of the season and wanted to consider hedges. But that's optional. [2] If we had enough historical data, we could probably begin to factor in other variables, like how often the team with the highest win-total over/under is actually taken first (and so on and so forth), plus other variance in draft-order results and actual wins. Somebody out there could probably then use these probabilities and deviations to create an even fairer draft. [3] I suppose the same flatness and randomness argument could be spun back in defense of the Simmons method. As mentioned above, a few spots in something this random is not going to make or break your draft. But the goal here is to create the fairest draft possible with the data we have. And given the premium that exists for the player with the 1st overall pick, trends suggest that coupling the 1st pick with the 28th and 30th picks best balances and equalizes projected wins.
The main data sources for this article were pro-football-reference.com and sportsoddshistory.com. Data was compiled and analyzed by ELDORADO. All charts and graphics herein were created by ELDORADO.
27 Comments
Brian Golden
9/3/2018 03:31:07 pm
This is interesting, but not quite on the nose. This chart looks at NFL team performance distribution after the season is over. But that doesn't match the conditions under which you draft in a pool like this. What you're really after is the distribution of wins -- not based on post season finish -- but based on the preseason Vegas lines. That's the information the players would have when drafting. Your analysis only really answers the question: what would be the best position if this draft were held AFTER THE SEASON.
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ELDORADO
9/4/2018 06:58:51 am
Thank you, Brian. I appreciate the comment but have a different view. To your point, the preseason win total (over/under) curve is flatter than the actual win curve, and the pool's players can reference those lines for guidance. But the players also "know" that the best team in the NFL wins an average of 13.8 games, not 11 or 11.5 like win totals often suggest. And they know that the worst team in the NFL wins an average of 1.8 games, not 4 or 5 like win totals suggest. (And everything in between.)
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Harrison
12/24/2018 09:19:37 pm
Brian is right. Yes we “know” that the number 1 team wins an average of 13.8 games, but we don’t know what the number one team is, and it’s probably picked wrong pretty often. If we knew which team would average 13.8 wins, we could crush Vegas by betting the over on the wins line!
ELDORADO
8/28/2019 10:00:36 am
Hi Brian and Harrison -- Thank you for your comments and input last year. Your suggestions were in the back of my head all year, with the start of the new season approaching, I took a fresh look and make some further updates and improvements. You'll see the explanations up above. I mentioned your names (based on what you shared down here) as the sources of the suggestions in the updated article. If you have a website or Twitter handle or anything you want me to link to when I mention them, I am happy to do that. You can drop the links down here or email me at [email protected]. (Likewise, if you want me to remove the references or only use first names, I can do that too. Just let me know.) Thank you again, please feel free to comment with any further thoughts, and enjoy the upcoming season!
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Jack Shepherd
9/4/2018 09:56:15 am
This is great, thank you so much. Can I ask where you got the numbers for the win averages for each of those teams? (i.e. 13.8 wins for 1st, 12.9 wins for 2nd, etc.) I'm trying to adapt your method for fewer than 10 players and am not sure how to get those averages out of Pro Football Reference.
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ELDORADO
9/4/2018 04:29:12 pm
Thank you, Jack. Appreciate the note!
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ELDORADO
8/28/2019 10:03:09 am
Hi Jack -- I ended up making some updates and adding balanced draft orders for situations with fewer than 10 people. They are now included toward the end of the article. Hope you enjoy the season!
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MITCH
9/4/2018 11:21:05 am
Great info. What's your opinion on the best tiebreaker? We've decided to payout only the top two guys. Thanks!
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ELDORADO
9/4/2018 04:33:51 pm
Thank you, Mitch. My first reaction would be to split the pot that you originally intended for the top two between however many guys end up tied. But it sounds like you're leaning against that option, which is totally fine and even invites some extra fun.
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TK
9/4/2018 01:35:09 pm
This is great, looking to start one of these pools myself but only have 8 guys. Any way to make this work with 8 guys/4 teams each?
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ELDORADO
9/4/2018 04:42:27 pm
Absolutely! And with eight guys drafting four teams apiece, you have an even number of draft rounds, so you can pretty much just go ahead and snake draft. The snake draft order will go down (1 thru 8), then back (8 thru 1), then down again (1 thru 8), then back again (8 thru 1). We could probably run the win numbers and make slight refinements to the snake based on the win curve, but snake drafting with an even number of rounds is the easiest option.
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ELDORADO
8/28/2019 09:50:41 am
Hi TK -- I wanted to follow up on your comment from last year by letting you know that I've updated the article to include balanced draft orders (based on win projections) for pools with nine, eight, seven, or six people. You can now find them at the bottom of the article. With eight guys, you were basically able to snake draft because the draft would go down and back two full times (which creates a pretty balanced starting point). But it does turn out that with a few small tweaks to regular snake draft order, we can make an eight-person draft even more balanced from a win projections standpoint. Hope you enjoy the season!
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Rob
9/5/2018 12:41:52 pm
Do you happen to have an order for 6 teams, 5 picks each? I can't find an adjusted one online anywhere.
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ELDORADO
9/6/2018 06:37:46 pm
Shoot, sorry, I don't have that off hand. With an odd number of teams/rounds, you'd run into the same issue as having 10 players, which is that you can't really do a snake draft.
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ELDORADO
8/28/2019 09:53:52 am
Hi Rob -- I wanted to follow up on your comment from last year by letting you know that I've updated the article to include balanced draft orders (based on win projections) for pools with nine, eight, seven, or six people. You can now find them at the bottom of the article. With six guys, you were in a little bit of a tough situation because that would typically imply five teams each, and that would mean a snake draft would go down-and-back only 2.5 times, which wouldn't be fair. Using win projections, I was able to crate a "fair draft" for six players. It's the last one listed up above. Hope you enjoy the season!
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Charlie
8/28/2019 11:09:19 am
Hi, if I had three players drafting 10 teams each, do you think we do a snake format and eliminate imbalances, or am I missing something? (FYI, we would each draft 10 teams but start 5 per week, thereby adding an element of in-season strategy.)
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ELDORADO
8/29/2019 06:07:48 pm
Thank you, Charlie. If we ran the numbers, we might find that some small tweaks to a three-person snake draft could be warranted to better balance over/under based win projections. But with three players the snake is going back and forth five full times, and it's few enough players that you're all drafting quite a bit from different parts of the curve. So while I think there might be some tweaks to the draft order if we really took a look at it, you're pretty much fine to run with the snake. (A three-player setup is not specifically addressed above because it's not very common... but I do like the added element you guys where you only start five teams per week.) Have fun and best of luck!
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Charlie
8/30/2019 06:17:37 pm
Thanks! That makes sense. We did the snake format - and we threw in a few other wrinkles to keep it interesting week-to-week.
Kate
9/6/2019 04:53:22 pm
Love this follow-up. I read the BS Wins Pool article in 2012 and was waiting for the right time and group. Last year I made it happen at my work - construction management in Nashville. It was a massive hit! So easy and fun.. ended up a 3-way tie at end of regular season. We extended to include playoffs and I won, woohoo! Anyways,it's back by popular demand this year and we had our draft Wednesday night over beers. I'd be happy to share our final results from last year's regulation -- very interesting in context!!
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Kyle
10/21/2019 01:38:35 pm
What considerations do you think need to be made when applying this to the NBA? Obviously win totals have a much higher variance by sheer number due to the number of games played, but do you think this formula and order of picks can simply be applied to the NBA and expect a reasonably similar result in total expected wins?
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Jason
1/4/2021 04:31:42 pm
Great work on this post! I have been running a pool with college buddies since 2017 and it has been really fun. What would you recommend for five players? Guessing it's close to a snake draft but you can optimize a bit better. Thanks!
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Mark P.
8/30/2021 07:01:21 pm
Hello. Any updates to the draft order for a 10-person league now that we'll have a 17 game season in 2021? We'll be drafting next week. Thanks.
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Marc
8/20/2022 11:38:48 am
What would the order be for 4 players, eight picks each? Thanks.
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